# [FOM] 342:Thematic Pi01 Incompleteness 3

Harvey Friedman friedman at math.ohio-state.edu
Sat May 23 16:54:05 EDT 2009

```There has been a simplification in the independent statement, pushing
it closer, grammatically, to everyday mathematics. I also changed the
terminology to "positive image terms in A,A',RA".

THEMATIC Pi01 INCOMPLETENESS 3
DRAFT
Harvey M. Friedman
May 23, 2009

We define N to be the set of all nonnegative integers. For any set As
containedin N^k, we write A' = N^k\A. The difference between two sets
A,B is A\B.

Let R containedin N^k x N^k = N^2k. We say that R is upwards if and
only if

for all x,y in N^k, R(x,y) implies max(x) < max(y).

We define RA for A containedin N^k, by

RA = {y in N^k: (therexists x in A)((x,y) in R)}.

THEOREM 1. For all k >= 1 and upwards R containedin N^2k, there exists
A containedin N^k, such that RA = A'. Furthermore, A is unique.

We want to work with very concrete R containedin N^2k.

We say that x,y in N^k are order equivalent if and only if for all 1
<= i,j <= k, x_i < x_j iff y_i < y_j.

We say that R containedin N^k is order invariant if and only if for
all order equivalent x,y in N^k, x in R iff y in R.

We have the following concrete form of Theorem 1. Here EXP means "the
characteristic function is computable in exponential time".

THEOREM 2. For all k >= 1 and upwards order invariant R containedin
N^2k, there exists A containedin N^k such that RA = A'. Furthermore, A
is unique and lies in EXP.

We now consider a family of expressions involving
R,A,A',union,intersection, which we call

*the positive image terms in R,A,A'*.

These are defined inductively as follows.

i. A,A' are positive image terms in R,A,A'.
ii. if s,t are positive image terms in R,A,A', then (s union t), (s
intersect t) are positive image terms in R,A,A'.
iii. if s is a positive image term in R,A,A', then R(s) is a positive
image term in R,A,A'.

Let s be a positive image term in R,A,A'. We define the rank of s to
be the number of occurrences of R in t. We say that s is similar to t
if and only if t is obtained from s by replacing some occurrences of
RA by A', and some occurrences of A' by RA. Here "some" means "none,
some, or all".

In an abuse of notation, if k,R,A have been specified, we think of t
both as a syntactic object and as the subset of N^k obtained by
evaluation.

The following is an obvious weakening of Theorem 2.

THEOREM 3. For all k >= 1 and upwards order invariant R containedin
N^2k, there exists A containedin N^k such that any two similar
positive image terms in R,A,A' are equal. Furthermore, A is unique and
lies in EXP.

Let U,V containedin N^k and S containedin N. We say that U,V agree
over S if and only if

U intersection S^k =
V intersection S^k.

PROPOSITION 4. For all k >= 1 and upwards order invariant R
containedin N^2k, there exists A containedin N^k such that any two
similar positive image terms in R,A,A' of rank at most k agree over some
infinite set disjoint from A+1.

More concreteness:

PROPOSITION 5. For all k >= 1 and upwards order invariant R
containedin N^2k, there exists A containedin N^k such that any two
similar positive image terms in R,A,A' of rank at most k agree over
some infinite geometric progression disjoint from A+1.

More concreteness:

PROPOSITION 6. For all k >= 1 and upwards order invariant R
containedin N^2k, there exists A containedin N^k such that any two
similar positive image terms in R,A,A' of rank at most k agree over
some infinite geometric progression disjoint from A+1, whose second
term is at most (8k)!.

More concreteness:

PROPOSITION 7. For all k,r >= 1 and upwards order invariant R
containedin N^2k, there exists finite A containedin N^k such that any
two similar positive image terms in R,A,A' of rank at most k agree
over some length r+1 geometric progression disjoint from A+1, whose
second term is at most (8k)!.

In Proposition 7, it is easy to see that only numbers from 0 through
(8k)!^r are relevant. Moreover, we can easily adjust the statement so
that only a finite interval of numbers are even mentioned. It is
particularly convenient to use

R containedin [0,r]^2k
A containedin [0,r]

and define order invariance for R relative to the restricted domain
[0,r], and define A' to be [0,r]\A. We thus arrive at the explicitly
Pi01 statement

PROPOSITION 8. For all k,r >= 1 and upwards order invariant R
containedin [0,r]^2k, there exists finite A containedin [0,r]^k such
that any two similar positive image terms in R,A,A' of rank at most k
agree over some length r+1 geometric progression disjoint from A+1,
whose second term is at most (8k)!.

Obviously, the geometric progression will go out of [0,r], but that is
of no consequence.

SMAH = ZFC + {there exists a strongly n-Mahlo cardinal}_n.
SMAH+ = ZFC + "for all n there exists a strongly n-Mahlo cardinal".

THEOREM 9. Propositions 4-8 are provably equivalent to Con(SMAH) over
ACA. They are not provable in any consistent fragment of SMAH. They
are provable in SMAH+ but not in SMAH (the latter using that SMAH is
consistent). These results still hold if we replace "rank at most k"
with "rank at most 8".

We look forward to adjusting the nature of the geometric progression
to get lots of important consistency strengths below SMAH. I.e., what
relationship do we want between the length of the progression and its
second term? Alternatively, replace r by specific expressions in k.

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Harvey Friedman
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