[FOM] 344: Thematic Pi01 Incompleteness 4

Harvey Friedman friedman at math.ohio-state.edu
Mon Jun 15 13:16:35 EDT 2009


There has been substantial progress on finding specific Pi01  
independent statements. The next posting will concern Templates.

Pi01 INCOMPLETENESS
DRAFT
Harvey M. Friedman
June 15, 2009

1. Definitions.
2. Independent Propositions.
3. Alternative: independence.
4. Alternative: foreignness.
5. Alternative: independence, foreignness.
6. Exponential Presburger.

1. DEFINITIONS.

We define N to be the set of all nonnegative integers.

Let R containedin N^pk x N^k. For A_1,...,A_p containedin N^k, we define

R(A_1,...,A_p) = {y in N^k: (therexists x_1,...,x_p from A_1,...,A_p,  
respectively)(R(x_1,...,x_p,y))}.

It is very convenient to define

RA = R(A,...,A)

where there are p A's. Here we require that A,A_1,...,A_p containedin  
N^k

We sometimes view N^pk x N^k as N^pk+k.

We say that R containedin N^pk x N^k is upwards if and only if

(forall x in N^pk)(forall y in N^k)(R(x,y) implies max(x) < max(y)).

Let x,y in N^s. We say that x,y have the same order type if and only if

(forall 1 <= i,j <= s)(x_i < x_j iff y_i < y_j).

We say that R containedin N^s is order invariant if and only if

(forall x,y in N^s)(x,y have the same order type implies (R(x) iff  
R(y))).

For A containedin N^k, we write A' = N^k\A.

Let A,B containedin N^k and E containedin N. We say that A equals B  
over E if and only if

(forall x in E^k)(x in A iff x in B).

For A containedin N^k and integers n, we define

A+n = {x+n: x in A}

where the addition is performed coordinatewise.

2. INDEPENDENT PROPOSITIONS.

First we start with some theorems.

THEOREM 2.1. For all k,p >= 1 and upwards R containedin N^pk x N^k,  
some RA = A'. Furthermore, A is unique.

We are particularly interested in the following concrete specialization.

THEOREM 2.2. For all k,p >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^pk x N^k, some RA = A'. Furthermore, A is unique and in  
EXP.

The following follows immediately from Theorem 2.2.

THEOREM 2.3. For all  k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R containedin  
N^3k x N^k, there exists A containedin N^k such that R(A,A,RA) =  
R(A,A,A').

THEOREM 2.4. The following is false, even for k = p = 1. For all k,p  
 >= 1 and order invariant upwards R containedin N^3k x N^k, there  
exists A containedin N^k such that R(A,A,RA) = R(A,A,A') union A+1

PROPOSITION 2.5. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R((A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') union A+1  
over some infinite set of nonnegative integers.

PROPOSITION 2.6. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') union A+1 over  
some infinite geometric progression of nonnegative integers.

PROPOSITION 2.7. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') union A+1 over  
an infinite tail of the powers of 2 by nonnegative integers.

PROPOSITION 2.8. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') union A+1 over  
the powers of 2 by nonnegative integers greater than 8k^2.

Here is an explicitly Pi01 form of Proposition 2.8.

PROPOSITION 2.9. For all k,t >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin [1,t]^3k x [1,t]^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') union A 
+1 over the powers of 2 in [2^(8k^2),t].

Here order invariant and upwards are redefined for [1,t] instead of N.  
We can also use [0,t] here instead of [1,t], and (2^(8k^2)] instead of  
[2^(8k^2),t].

THEOREM 2.10. Theorems 2.1 - 2.4 are provable in RCA0. Propositions  
2.5 - 2.9 are provably equivalent, in ACA, to the consistency of SMAH.  
Hence they are provable in SMAH+ but not in any consistent subtheory  
of SMAH.

Here SMAH = ZFC + {there exists a strongly k-Mahlo cardinal}_k. SMAH+  
= ZFC + "for all k there exists a strongly k-Mahlo cardinal".

3. ALTERNATIVE: independence.

Let R containedin N^pk x N^k. We say that A is independent for R if  
and only if RA intersect A is empty.

PROPOSITION 3.1. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') union A+1 over some infinite set of nonnegative  
integers.

PROPOSITION 3.2. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') union A+1 over some infinite geometric progression of  
nonnegative integers.

PROPOSITION 3.3. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') union A+1 over an infinite tail of the powers of 2 by  
nonnegative integers.

PROPOSITION 3.4. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') union A+1 over the powers of 2 by nonnegative  
integers greater than 8k^2.

PROPOSITION 3.5. For all k,t >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin [1,t]^3k x [1,t]^k has an independent A containedin  
[1,t]^k such that RRA equals R(A') union A+1 over the powers of 2 by  
integers from [8k^2,t].

THEOREM 3.6. Propositions 3.1 - 3.4 are provably equivalent, in ACA,  
to the consistency of SMAH. Hence they are provable in SMAH+ but not  
in any consistent subtheory of SMAH.

4. ALTERNATIVE: foreignness.

Let A containedin N^k. We say that n is foreign to A if and only if n  
is not a coordinate of any element of A.

PROPOSITION 4.1. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') over some  
infinite set of nonnegative integers that are foreign to A+1.

PROPOSITION 4.2. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') over some  
infinite geometric progression of nonnegative integers that are  
foreign to A+1.

PROPOSITION 4.3. For all k >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') over an  
infinite tail of powers of 2 by nonnegative integers, that are foreign  
to A+1.

PROPOSITION 4.4. For all k,t >= 1 and order invariant upwards R  
containedin [1,t]^3k x [1,t]^k, some R(A,A,RA) equals R(A,A,A') over  
the at least floor(log(t)) - 8k^2 powers of 2 in [1,t] that are  
foreign to A+1.

THEOREM 4.5. Propositions 4.1 - 4.4 are provably equivalent, in ACA,  
to the consistency of SMAH. Hence they are provable in SMAH+ but not  
in any consistent subtheory of SMAH.

5. ALTERNATIVE: independence, foreignness.

PROPOSITION 5.1. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') over some infinite set of nonnegative integers that  
are foreign to A+1.

PROPOSITION 5.2. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') over some infinite geometric progression of  
nonnegative integers that are foreign to A+1.

PROPOSITION 5.3. For all k >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin N^3k x N^k has an independent A containedin N^k such that  
RRA equals R(A') over an infinite tail of powers of 2, that are  
foreign to A+1.

PROPOSITION 5.4. For all k,t >= 1, every order invariant upwards R  
containedin [1,t]^3k x [1,t]^k has an independent A containedin  
[1,t]^k such that RRA equals R(A') over the at least floor(log(t)) -  
8k^2 powers of 2 in [1,t], that are foreign to A+1.

THEOREM 5.5. Propositions 4.1 - 4.4 are provably equivalent, in ACA,  
to the consistency of SMAH. Hence they are provable in SMAH+ but not  
in any consistent subtheory of SMAH.

6. EXPONENTIAL PRESBURGER.

The structure (N,+) is of course analyzed by Presburger, who gave a  
decision procedure using elimination of quantifiers. More recently,  
the structure (N,+,2^) has been analyzed by Semenov and others. See http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/%7Efriedman/pdf/AppB082707.pdf 
    Again, there is a decision procedure using elimination of  
quantifiers.

A Presburger set is a subset of some N^k which is definable in (N,+).  
An exponential Presburger set is a subset of some N^k which is  
definable in (N,+,2^).

THEOREM 6.1. In Propositions 2.5 - 2.8, 3.1 - 3.4, 4.1 - 4.3, 5.1 -  
5.3, we can require that A be an exponential Presburger set. In the  
case of Propositions 2.7, 3.3, 4.3, 5.3, this results in a Pi01  
sentence using the decision procedure for exponential Presburger  
arithmetic (i.e., (N,+,2^)).

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