[FOM] Is anyone on this list an expert on Conjoint Measure a la Luce?

Michael Lamport Commons commons at tiac.net
Sun Apr 13 17:40:55 EDT 2003


Is anyone on this list an expert on Conjoint Measure a la Luce?

My Best,

Michael Lamport Commons, Ph.D.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Everdell at aol.com>
To: <fom at cs.nyu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: [FOM] Re: Papers of Poincare (Bill Everdell)


>
> In a message dated 4/11/03, Colin McLarty writes on Poincaré:
>
> << Many logicians since have claimed he implicitly posed limitations - or
> that he should have posed limitations. But the limitations are not to be
> found in his math or his philosophy. He even wrote one philosophic paper,
a
> month before he died, saying that some mathematicians reject the
> well-ordering theorem as non-constructive. But he explicitly claimed to
> understand the issue better than those mathematicians do. He says the
> constructivists (or, in his words, pragmatists) and the Cantorians both
only
> understand one side of the argument, while he understands both sides.
(This
> is the 1912 "logique d l'infini" translated in MATHEMATICS AND SCIENCE
under
> the title "Mathematics and logic".) >>
>
> I'm trying to get these references straighter.  In 1909 (not 1912)
Poincaré
> published "La logique de l’infini" in _Revue de métaphysique et de morale_
> (1909).  This I have read as it was reprinted in Poincaré's posthumous
> _Dernières Pensées_, and always thought had appeared as "The Logic of
> Infinity" in the translated book, _Mathematics and Science, Last Essays_
(NY:
> Dover, 1963).  This is the one to which Russell replied in 1910, and
contains
> the quotation given by Lucas Wiman:
> "Knowledge of the genus does not result in your knowing all its members;
it
> merely provides you with the possibility of constructing them all, or
rather
> constructing as many of them as you may wish.  They will exist only after
> they have been constructed; that is, after they have been defined; X
exists
> only by virtue of its definition." (Mathematics and Science: Last Essays;
> quoted in Chihara, Ontology and the vicious-circle principle, quoted by
Lucas
> Wiman, [FOM], 9Apr03).
>
> In the same year of 1909, Poincaré published "Über Transfinite Zahlen" in
> Acta Mathematica (1909) later reprinted in his Oeuvres, Paris:
> Gauthier-Villars, v11, pp120-124.  In this article he viewed transfinites
as
> an aberration.
>
> None of these, I suppose, is the 1912 "logique de l'infini" cited above by
> McLarty.  Or have I missed something?
>
> Peter Galison has a book on Poincaré in the offing, which should be as
fresh
> as Lucas Wiman might want, but I gather it does not say much about
> mathematical foundations.
>
> -William R. Everdell, St. Ann's School, Brooklyn, NY, USA
>
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